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	<title>Comments on: One Family&#8217;s Personal Finance Tale: August Edition</title>
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		<title>By: Patch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 05:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought of you when I read this post: http://moneyning.com/investing/buy-an-investment-property-or-dividend-yielding-stocks/ - maybe it will help in deciding whether the purchase investment property or dividend stocks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought of you when I read this post: <a href="http://moneyning.com/investing/buy-an-investment-property-or-dividend-yielding-stocks/" rel="nofollow">http://moneyning.com/investing/buy-an-investment-property-or-dividend-yielding-stocks/</a> &#8211; maybe it will help in deciding whether the purchase investment property or dividend stocks.</p>
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		<title>By: What is considered savings? &#124; Million Dollar Journey</title>
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		<dc:creator>What is considered savings? &#124; Million Dollar Journey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 10:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] was an interesting guest post on Thicken My Wallet that got me thinking about what is really considered savings. The author was going through a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Weekly Dividend Investing Roundup - August 30, 2008 &#187; The Dividend Guy Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weekly Dividend Investing Roundup - August 30, 2008 &#187; The Dividend Guy Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A personal finance tale [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Gene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 04:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s very common for couples to be very different with regards to opinions on money.  When we first meet our future spouse, all the differences seem to be points to admire about the person.  I&#039;m thrifty, my wife is free-spending.  I loved when she would buy me nice gifts... she loved that I could control spending and saved and invested wisely.  Now she gets annoyed at my cheapness and I think she buys too much junk.

I wonder if there&#039;s a way to get your husband to see your point of view.  I think your net worth calculation is right on.  However, his point is valid too, in that he feels more security from super-liquid assets.  It&#039;s a tough difference in opinion.  One&#039;s assets are an important measure of financial health.  I can sympathize with your plight, but I have no real solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s very common for couples to be very different with regards to opinions on money.  When we first meet our future spouse, all the differences seem to be points to admire about the person.  I&#8217;m thrifty, my wife is free-spending.  I loved when she would buy me nice gifts&#8230; she loved that I could control spending and saved and invested wisely.  Now she gets annoyed at my cheapness and I think she buys too much junk.</p>
<p>I wonder if there&#8217;s a way to get your husband to see your point of view.  I think your net worth calculation is right on.  However, his point is valid too, in that he feels more security from super-liquid assets.  It&#8217;s a tough difference in opinion.  One&#8217;s assets are an important measure of financial health.  I can sympathize with your plight, but I have no real solution.</p>
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		<title>By: Potato</title>
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		<dc:creator>Potato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should clarify with your husband what his working definition of savings and net worth are. Typically, I consider net worth to be, well, how much assets you have after you subtract your liabilities (debts). Your net worth is the pool of &quot;stuff&quot; that you build up while you&#039;re working, and then sell off to live on in retirement. 

Savings is a little more fluid -- sometimes it can mean additions to your net worth in any form... but your husband seems to be defining it as rainy day savings or an emergency fund, which might be why he&#039;s only counting cash/liquid assets. Ask your husband what he means by &lt;i&gt;savings&lt;/i&gt;. Surely he can&#039;t mean that all your savings for retirement should be in a high-interest savings account. Is your husband coming here and reading your entries and the comments?


&quot;&lt;i&gt;And he’s leery of real estate investing (as was a poster from July), something we’re interested in, so he may not be the guy for us. [...] He sang the same old song of long-term conservative investing being the best bet. Ho hum. (Not to mention, my husband has had his RRSPs in &lt;b&gt;super-low-risk&lt;/b&gt; mutual funds for fifteen years [...] Are we expecting too much? Should all investments be self-directed? We are actually moving that way, and will soon consider ditching all mutual funds.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

I&#039;m not a very positive person when it comes to real estate in general, but that aside I would caution you against real estate investing anyway (unless you mean REITs) since you&#039;re, well, naive investors, and busy to boot. Landlording can be hard work at times, and usually you&#039;re not diversified with it. When it goes well, everything&#039;s fine, but if you screw it up you can lose big. 

So what&#039;s super-low-risk? Bond/money market funds (with high fees for the old advisor)? Principal protected notes? Did you have a diversified equity component? I&#039;m a self-directed guy myself, and think you should probably go that way, but consider hiring a fee-only advisor to help guide you through it all. Also, I just want to make sure that you&#039;re not going to overshoot getting away from your advisor funds to getting away from any kind of fund and going to active investing -- you should probably read about passive/ETF investing.

Oh, and if you are going to go for a stock-heavy portfolio, make sure you can handle the risk -- if you were managing your own money and saw the gyrations of the stock market over the last year, would that have given you a stroke or would you weather it ok?

Has your financial planner gone over your retirement plans with you? Knowing how much you will need and seeing your progress towards that should help a lot with figuring out where you are on the reasonable/bankruptcy scale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should clarify with your husband what his working definition of savings and net worth are. Typically, I consider net worth to be, well, how much assets you have after you subtract your liabilities (debts). Your net worth is the pool of &#8220;stuff&#8221; that you build up while you&#8217;re working, and then sell off to live on in retirement. </p>
<p>Savings is a little more fluid &#8212; sometimes it can mean additions to your net worth in any form&#8230; but your husband seems to be defining it as rainy day savings or an emergency fund, which might be why he&#8217;s only counting cash/liquid assets. Ask your husband what he means by <i>savings</i>. Surely he can&#8217;t mean that all your savings for retirement should be in a high-interest savings account. Is your husband coming here and reading your entries and the comments?</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>And he’s leery of real estate investing (as was a poster from July), something we’re interested in, so he may not be the guy for us. [...] He sang the same old song of long-term conservative investing being the best bet. Ho hum. (Not to mention, my husband has had his RRSPs in <b>super-low-risk</b> mutual funds for fifteen years [...] Are we expecting too much? Should all investments be self-directed? We are actually moving that way, and will soon consider ditching all mutual funds.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a very positive person when it comes to real estate in general, but that aside I would caution you against real estate investing anyway (unless you mean REITs) since you&#8217;re, well, naive investors, and busy to boot. Landlording can be hard work at times, and usually you&#8217;re not diversified with it. When it goes well, everything&#8217;s fine, but if you screw it up you can lose big. </p>
<p>So what&#8217;s super-low-risk? Bond/money market funds (with high fees for the old advisor)? Principal protected notes? Did you have a diversified equity component? I&#8217;m a self-directed guy myself, and think you should probably go that way, but consider hiring a fee-only advisor to help guide you through it all. Also, I just want to make sure that you&#8217;re not going to overshoot getting away from your advisor funds to getting away from any kind of fund and going to active investing &#8212; you should probably read about passive/ETF investing.</p>
<p>Oh, and if you are going to go for a stock-heavy portfolio, make sure you can handle the risk &#8212; if you were managing your own money and saw the gyrations of the stock market over the last year, would that have given you a stroke or would you weather it ok?</p>
<p>Has your financial planner gone over your retirement plans with you? Knowing how much you will need and seeing your progress towards that should help a lot with figuring out where you are on the reasonable/bankruptcy scale.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d say it doesn&#039;t matter what you call &quot;savings&quot;.  To retire, you don&#039;t need sufficient &quot;savings&quot; so much as sufficient passive income to afford your retirement lifestyle.  Why not focus on that and try taking the word &quot;savings&quot; out of your vocabulary for a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d say it doesn&#8217;t matter what you call &#8220;savings&#8221;.  To retire, you don&#8217;t need sufficient &#8220;savings&#8221; so much as sufficient passive income to afford your retirement lifestyle.  Why not focus on that and try taking the word &#8220;savings&#8221; out of your vocabulary for a while.</p>
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