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		<title>By: A Week in Review: Edition #8 &#124; My Findependence Day</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Week in Review: Edition #8 &#124; My Findependence Day</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] - Thicken My Wallet looks at how REITs are doing in this [...]</description>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<description>Hi Ashvin: I am not familiar with that REIT. Any reasons for your interest?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ashvin: I am not familiar with that REIT. Any reasons for your interest?</p>
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		<title>By: Weekly Dividend Investing Roundup - April 25, 2009 &#124; The Dividend Guy Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weekly Dividend Investing Roundup - April 25, 2009 &#124; The Dividend Guy Blog</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: ashvin k.</title>
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		<dc:creator>ashvin k.</dc:creator>
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		<description>What is your opinion about IGW REIT&#039;s (from Vancouver&#039;s League Assets Corp)) new Income Priority Units?</description>
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		<title>By: Tax Deadline 2009, Another Rate Drop and Weekend Reading - April 24, 2009 &#124; Income Trust &#124; Personal Finance &#124; Real Estate SEO</title>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<description>Shant- thanks for the additional comments and analysis.</description>
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		<title>By: Shant Downey Mifsud</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shant Downey Mifsud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic analysis...I&#039;d like to add a couple of points which tend to confound the markets when putting a risk premium on REITs: 

1. With regard to your comment about Class-A commercial real estate having a bleaker short-term future -this statement is mostly correct, or it may not be...A commercial REIT will likely have long-term leases coupled by long-term debt maturities so, while we are in a global recession, there are many land-lords whose cash-flows are well protected meaning they will skate through this unscathed. That goes out the window, however, if you have large lease maturities in the &#039;down years&#039; and/or if you suffer tenant bankruptcies -the unknown which the market is discounting. However, if you have large, multi-national tenants that aren&#039;t going anywhere, you may be fine. Moreover, commercial REITs in Canada are mostly reporting that debt is still available and with the risk-free rate as low as it is, they are frequently re-financing well below the rate on expiring mortgages, generating significant interest savings. The reason why they say real estate is a lagging indicator is that the aformentioned commercial real estate REIT will eventually have to deal with lease maturities in the ensueing years and the bruised-and-battered markets will likely hurt their pricing power for years to come.

2. With regard to payout ratios and such, there is one additional layer of analysis that is prudent -the AFFO payout ratio alone is not enough to tell the story. RioCan is the perfect example: with a payout of $1.31 and AFFO of $1.36, they are &#039;over-distributing&#039; by $0.05/unit or $11 million (222 million units outstanding). For a entity with an enterprise value of over $6 billion, this represents a rounding error. The thing to remember is that REITs pay down the principals of their mortgages like homeowners but unlike homeowners, there goal is not to pay it off entirely -they need to maintain a target capital structure which includes debt, thus they often &#039;top-up&#039; mortgages when they come due or &#039;up-finance&#039; (borrow more if the value has increased), which provides a steady-stream of cash. The bottom line is that over-distributing by an estimated $11 million puts absolutely no stress on RioCan or its balance sheet whereas it may sink someone else.

Thanks,
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic analysis&#8230;I&#8217;d like to add a couple of points which tend to confound the markets when putting a risk premium on REITs: </p>
<p>1. With regard to your comment about Class-A commercial real estate having a bleaker short-term future -this statement is mostly correct, or it may not be&#8230;A commercial REIT will likely have long-term leases coupled by long-term debt maturities so, while we are in a global recession, there are many land-lords whose cash-flows are well protected meaning they will skate through this unscathed. That goes out the window, however, if you have large lease maturities in the &#8216;down years&#8217; and/or if you suffer tenant bankruptcies -the unknown which the market is discounting. However, if you have large, multi-national tenants that aren&#8217;t going anywhere, you may be fine. Moreover, commercial REITs in Canada are mostly reporting that debt is still available and with the risk-free rate as low as it is, they are frequently re-financing well below the rate on expiring mortgages, generating significant interest savings. The reason why they say real estate is a lagging indicator is that the aformentioned commercial real estate REIT will eventually have to deal with lease maturities in the ensueing years and the bruised-and-battered markets will likely hurt their pricing power for years to come.</p>
<p>2. With regard to payout ratios and such, there is one additional layer of analysis that is prudent -the AFFO payout ratio alone is not enough to tell the story. RioCan is the perfect example: with a payout of $1.31 and AFFO of $1.36, they are &#8216;over-distributing&#8217; by $0.05/unit or $11 million (222 million units outstanding). For a entity with an enterprise value of over $6 billion, this represents a rounding error. The thing to remember is that REITs pay down the principals of their mortgages like homeowners but unlike homeowners, there goal is not to pay it off entirely -they need to maintain a target capital structure which includes debt, thus they often &#8216;top-up&#8217; mortgages when they come due or &#8216;up-finance&#8217; (borrow more if the value has increased), which provides a steady-stream of cash. The bottom line is that over-distributing by an estimated $11 million puts absolutely no stress on RioCan or its balance sheet whereas it may sink someone else.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
S.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 13:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MDJ: If you put a gun to my head and I had to chose, I like Allied Properties (TSX: AP.UN): great balance sheet, healthy interest coverage and I walk by their buildings weekly (they own about a city block just west of my office) and they are well-maintained and full.

Canadian REIT is also very good (TSX: REF.UN): a diverse holding of residential, office and industrial. No one tenant accounts for more than 5% of revenue. Long track record of steady management.

But I am generally not a huge fan of REITs. Real estate is a tough play on the public level- lots of valuation and financing issues. I always tend to like private real estate plays better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MDJ: If you put a gun to my head and I had to chose, I like Allied Properties (TSX: AP.UN): great balance sheet, healthy interest coverage and I walk by their buildings weekly (they own about a city block just west of my office) and they are well-maintained and full.</p>
<p>Canadian REIT is also very good (TSX: REF.UN): a diverse holding of residential, office and industrial. No one tenant accounts for more than 5% of revenue. Long track record of steady management.</p>
<p>But I am generally not a huge fan of REITs. Real estate is a tough play on the public level- lots of valuation and financing issues. I always tend to like private real estate plays better.</p>
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		<title>By: Million Dollar Journey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Million Dollar Journey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 11:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TMW, which reits are your favorite in this environment?</description>
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