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	<title>Comments on: Is there a relationship between savings rates and real estate values?</title>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.thickenmywallet.com/blog/wp/2009/11/16/is-there-a-relationship-between-savings-rates-and-real-estate-values/comment-page-1/#comment-19912</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Riscario- its a subject of another blog post, but I agree with you that people put money foolishly into renovating the wrong part of their houses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Riscario- its a subject of another blog post, but I agree with you that people put money foolishly into renovating the wrong part of their houses.</p>
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		<title>By: Riscario Insider &#124; @riscario</title>
		<link>http://www.thickenmywallet.com/blog/wp/2009/11/16/is-there-a-relationship-between-savings-rates-and-real-estate-values/comment-page-1/#comment-19911</link>
		<dc:creator>Riscario Insider &#124; @riscario</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(I messed up the second last sentence. &quot;knew understood&quot; should just be &quot;understood&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(I messed up the second last sentence. &#8220;knew understood&#8221; should just be &#8220;understood&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: Riscario Insider &#124; @riscario</title>
		<link>http://www.thickenmywallet.com/blog/wp/2009/11/16/is-there-a-relationship-between-savings-rates-and-real-estate-values/comment-page-1/#comment-19910</link>
		<dc:creator>Riscario Insider &#124; @riscario</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Real estate lets us fool ourselves. When you buy stocks, you can tell what your portfolio is worth moment by moment. With real estate, you only know when you have a buyer.

If a house down the street sells for a high price, we think ours is worth more. If that house sells for a low price, we know ours won&#039;t drop because it&#039;s so much better. 

Hey, let&#039;s upgrade the kitchen since we&#039;ll get our money back when we sell. We forget that buyers have different preferences. They don&#039;t care what we spent in upgrades. They care only about the value to them. The buyer may only want the land to build a monster house.

We were looking at houses recently and were appalled at some of the crazy designs. A hallway closet that juts into the garage and removes one parking spot. Or a house &quot;upgraded&quot; with vinyl siding in a neighbourhood of brick or stucco exteriors. Or a basement with the kind of flooring you&#039;ll find in school or hospital hallways. The owners overestimated the market values of their houses but did not realize this until they tried to sell at premium prices.

Benjamin Tal at CIBC World Markets said that for every $1,000 increase in the value of our real estate, we feel $80 richer. This lets us turn our house into a bank machine. Why not go out for dinner when it&#039;s &quot;on the house&quot;?

I&#039;d rather build equity for a rainy day than spend it for immediate consumption. 

In his early married life, Warren Buffett was loathe to spend on home renovations because he knew understood the power of compounding. Spending $10,000 now was akin to spending $1,000,000 later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Real estate lets us fool ourselves. When you buy stocks, you can tell what your portfolio is worth moment by moment. With real estate, you only know when you have a buyer.</p>
<p>If a house down the street sells for a high price, we think ours is worth more. If that house sells for a low price, we know ours won&#8217;t drop because it&#8217;s so much better. </p>
<p>Hey, let&#8217;s upgrade the kitchen since we&#8217;ll get our money back when we sell. We forget that buyers have different preferences. They don&#8217;t care what we spent in upgrades. They care only about the value to them. The buyer may only want the land to build a monster house.</p>
<p>We were looking at houses recently and were appalled at some of the crazy designs. A hallway closet that juts into the garage and removes one parking spot. Or a house &#8220;upgraded&#8221; with vinyl siding in a neighbourhood of brick or stucco exteriors. Or a basement with the kind of flooring you&#8217;ll find in school or hospital hallways. The owners overestimated the market values of their houses but did not realize this until they tried to sell at premium prices.</p>
<p>Benjamin Tal at CIBC World Markets said that for every $1,000 increase in the value of our real estate, we feel $80 richer. This lets us turn our house into a bank machine. Why not go out for dinner when it&#8217;s &#8220;on the house&#8221;?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d rather build equity for a rainy day than spend it for immediate consumption. </p>
<p>In his early married life, Warren Buffett was loathe to spend on home renovations because he knew understood the power of compounding. Spending $10,000 now was akin to spending $1,000,000 later.</p>
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		<title>By: Canadian Capitalist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Canadian Capitalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It makes perfect sense that rising real estate values would negatively affect the savings rate. If stocks go up, the &quot;wealth effect&quot; comes from feeling rich. People don&#039;t tend to borrow against stocks to fuel their spending. If home prices go up, home owners might be inclined to tap that increased equity to fund a vacation, a remodeling etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It makes perfect sense that rising real estate values would negatively affect the savings rate. If stocks go up, the &#8220;wealth effect&#8221; comes from feeling rich. People don&#8217;t tend to borrow against stocks to fuel their spending. If home prices go up, home owners might be inclined to tap that increased equity to fund a vacation, a remodeling etc.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad- I think you understand why I believe in the double recession theory. We are living in such an artificial economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad- I think you understand why I believe in the double recession theory. We are living in such an artificial economy.</p>
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		<title>By: Nurseb911</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there should be concern for sure when you look at how RE prices were affected by this latest downturn.  One might even ask, &quot;what effect?&quot;

It just blows me mind that the stock market can still be down as much from its peak, unemployment can be so high but there&#039;s little to no substantial change in the prices of homes.  There&#039;s really only one answer for this (and we&#039;ll pay for it in about 5 years).  Low interest rates are heavily influencing the amount of money individuals can spend on their homes.  Once that changes you won&#039;t see people putting 0% or 5% down on a home for a long time because the interest payments will kill them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there should be concern for sure when you look at how RE prices were affected by this latest downturn.  One might even ask, &#8220;what effect?&#8221;</p>
<p>It just blows me mind that the stock market can still be down as much from its peak, unemployment can be so high but there&#8217;s little to no substantial change in the prices of homes.  There&#8217;s really only one answer for this (and we&#8217;ll pay for it in about 5 years).  Low interest rates are heavily influencing the amount of money individuals can spend on their homes.  Once that changes you won&#8217;t see people putting 0% or 5% down on a home for a long time because the interest payments will kill them.</p>
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