Who really makes money predicting the end of the world?

Posted by on February 25, 2010 in Investment Information

Nouriel Roubini, arguably next to Ben Bernanke, is the world’s foremost media darling economist (to the extent any economist is appealing to the masses). It was Roubini who predicted the end of the global real estate bubble in 2006 and continues to believe that the worst is yet to come.  In March 2009 he predicated that the Dow Jones Industrial Average would fall below 7,800. It ended 2009 at 10,300.

Harry Dent predicated Japan’s economic fall and America’s boom in the 1990′s. Since then, he has sold a lot of books making widely inaccurate predictions based on his research. In 2006, Dent predicted the Dow Jones Industrial Average would hit 40,000 by the end of 2009 (it hovers around 10,000). After the bubble burst, he changed his tune and called for a great depression ahead.

Roubini and Dent are but two of the industry predicting our imminent economic doom. Not to be outdone, the U.S. government warned in 2001 that if 5 nuclear reactors were not built every year for the rest of the decade, the country would experience rolling brown outs. Yet the U.S. Energy Information Administration of the U.S. Department of Energy reports electricity prices are falling which contradicts price movement of a supposedly scare resource (not to mention the small detail that it takes many years to build a plant).

The fact of the matter is that even a broken clock is right twice a day. This is not to downplay the fact there are serious economic issues which need to be faced and the immediate future does not look so rosy as the not so pre-2008 past. However, lest one forgot, people do not attract media attention because they are right per se but because they are outrageous in their claim.

Underlying all these claims meant to attract headlines and stoke our fears is a call to action to do something. Typically, that something has to with the self-interest of the person predicating doom. We will run out of energy! Build nuclear plants cries the politician in the nuclear power’s pocket. The world is ending! Buy gold (oh, by the way, this television show is sponsored by a gold producing company). The demographics say bad things will happen! Here’s a mutual fund sponsored by me which will make you rich.

And, therein, lies the problem. The dooms day predictors either give terrible financial advice or are peddling product which enriches them at the expense of the investor. Roubini has been quoted as saying he is 95% in cash and 5% equity. He gets paid in USD as a professor at NYU. Assuming his cash holdings are in USD, and one of thesis is the American economy is shrinking, it seems like a strange asset allocation to concentrate holdings in a depreciating currency. Even if he is not substantially all in USD, this is a strange allocation for a 50 year old man.

Dent has a very spotty record peddling products associated with his research. In 1999, the AIM Dent Demographic Trends mutual fund was launched to great fanfare. Its investment philosophy would be based on Dent’s demographic trending and analysis (Dent acted as sub-advisor to the fund). Five years later, the fund was merged out of existence, partially due to poor performance.

Since we have short memories, Dent has launched an actively managed ETF (a walking misnomer) with a total expense ratio of 1.65%- well above many ETFs; one can only conclude that Dent’s research found that investors are suckers. True to form as a inaccurate predictor, the sucker/investor did not bite.  Its trading volume is so small (3,882 shares traded yesterday) that, barring a major turn-around, the ETF will likely be closed.

Sprott Asset Management may be one of the exceptions to the rule. But, even then, some of its mutual funds are charging management fees of 2.5%.

If the fundamental thesis of the doomsday industry is the economic system will collapse upon itself, why exactly do they need to make all this money?

If money has no value upon collapse,  what exactly are they accumulating it for? If our economic world was to end tomorrow, I am not sure I would be listening to the person telling me to buy gold or their mutual fund. Instead, I would be listening to the person telling me to find my family and friends and to cherish and protect them now and in the future. But I guess no one ever made money giving that advice.

19 Comments on Who really makes money predicting the end of the world?

By Fernando on February 25, 2010 at 9:10 am

And that is one of the core reasons why people should be skeptical of the whole “Climate Change” fiasco. Read this article and then consider that:
- Al Gore stands to gain millions/billions in carbon trading schemes.
- David Suzuki and other environmentalists get valuable media exposure and corporate contributions
- The head of the IPCC led a team that received millions in grant money to study the effect of melting glaciers, even though there was no evidence behind it.

Bottom line is, caveat emptor!

By 2 Cents @ Balance Junkie on February 25, 2010 at 10:58 am

The broken clock analogy is a good one, but it applies at least equally to the permabulls and shills that want us to believe that the stock market always goes up and will return 10% a year in perpetuity. I agree that some of these doomsayers are acting in their own self-interest, but I still listen to them as I like to at least hear the other side of the bullish story.

In the end, I hope we make the changes necessary to improve our financial system and curtail the boom/bust cycles that have become so prevalent over the past few decades. At that point, we will hopefully have fewer pundits at both extremes and find a little balance.

By Canadian Capitalist on February 25, 2010 at 11:56 am

It’s also incredibly hard to make money even if your predictions eventually turn out to be right. Just ask Peter Schiff, who now enjoys guru status but his clients are said to have lost much more than the benchmarks in 2008.

By Potato on February 25, 2010 at 1:36 pm

“In March 2009 he predicated that the Dow Jones Industrial Average would fall below 7,800. It ended at 10,300.”

Is there a typo in there somewhere? The Dow was below 7,800 all through March ’09.

By admin on February 25, 2010 at 4:30 pm

Potato: I added the Dow ended 2009 at 10,300. Thanks for the clarification.

By admin on February 25, 2010 at 4:33 pm

2 Cents- I am an equal opportunity critic of both the dooms dayers and the Pollyanna’s.

CC- I knew I missed somebody. Schiff really became the poster child of “do as I say, not as I invest” of financial gurus.

By This and That: Chinese Bubble, Active Management and More… | Canadian Capitalist on February 26, 2010 at 1:14 am

[...] Thicken My Wallet points out that there is a vested interest behind a lot of doomsday predictions. [...]

By Mark Wolfinger on February 26, 2010 at 1:36 am

I don’t get it.

Gloom and doomers have a vested interest but ‘all’s well with the world’ people are visionaries without a bias or vested interest?

Who are you kidding? Only yourself.

By admin on February 26, 2010 at 12:02 pm

Mark- I would argue that Pollyanna’s have just as vested interest which is how we got to where we are at since the powers that be told us the future was so bright that leveraging ourselves to the hilt would be ok. I don’t disagree with your point. It just wasn’t the subject of the post.

By E on February 26, 2010 at 2:02 pm

“And that is one of the core reasons why people should be skeptical of the whole “Climate Change” fiasco”

And this is precisely why as inhabitants of the world are going to face a very rough future. Skeptical or not, the long term outcome of maintaining status quo is more disasterous if true, than if it is false.

By larry macdonald on February 26, 2010 at 3:04 pm

Several economists and market strategists did see the financial crisis coming.
http://www.canadianbusiness.com/columnists/larry_macdonald/article.jsp?content=20061207_113934_4796

By Mike on February 26, 2010 at 6:05 pm

“Schiff really became the poster child of “do as I say, not as I invest” of financial gurus.”

Can you elaborate on that statement?

By admin on February 26, 2010 at 8:15 pm

Mike:

http://seekingalpha.com/article/106824-being-wrong-for-five-years-makes-peter-schiff-right-now

Fundamentally, his greatest sin really is that he’s not a great market timer which really makes him no different than you or I.

In all fairness, some of the criticism probably comes down to style. Some of the attacks on him are unfair since his firm is a brokerage firm and not an investment advisor so he cannot disclose performance and he gets attacked based on gossip and hersey.

I do not disagree with some of Schiff’s thesis. However, even if the thesis is right, can anyone guess the right time to enter the market consistently?

By admin on February 26, 2010 at 8:21 pm

Larry- Thanks. Many people did see the bubble bursting (no one paid much attention to Shiller in the beginning). My point was that you have to analyze the motives of those screaming that the sky is falling while asking for your money at the same time.

By Patrick on February 27, 2010 at 5:11 pm

@E

Pascal’s wager is a famous version of your statement that precedes you by several centuries. Roughly paraphrased: If God exists, you should be appropriately religious because the downside is literally hell. The climate change version is obvious from your statement. Logically, both depend on the truth of the predicate “If then … ”

I can offer another version of this reasoning: Buy the San Francisco Bay Bridge from me for $100,000 so you can make millions on the tolls. The false logical premise is that I can convey title to the bridge. As adults, we have to look past the scare tactics (the world will come to an end, in some form) or “too good to be true” rewards to examine the offer at hand.

By Plan B Economics on March 1, 2010 at 7:47 am

1. I don’t think Roubini should be in the same camp as Dent.

2. Economists are good at analyzing the economy…but not necessarily the markets.

By JohnR on March 1, 2010 at 9:22 am

To Fernando, Al Gore may be going to make millions but than doesn’t change the fact that there are numerous well done peer reviewed studies showing AGW is occuring, caveat emptor indeed.

By Thicken My Wallet » Blog Archive » Are financially innovative products for you? on September 16, 2010 at 5:02 am

[...] financial innovations are based on short term trends. I blogged earlier this year that doomsday economists tend to be in vogue. It appears, according to the WSJ, that economists backing ETFs are also [...]

By Do self-help books actually help? - Thicken My Wallet on March 15, 2011 at 5:02 am

[...] As Canadian Capitalist once commented about Dent (to paraphrase), if Dent had known that random events in the past were not so random, then the past would be predictable. This is tantamount to saying if you knew the answers to the quiz beforehand, you would have scored a perfect score.  But because you did not, you scored less than perfect… BUT accounting for the fact you now know the answers, you should be credited with a perfect score. Oh, and Dent himself, has a spotty track record as an investment manager. [...]

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